Continuing on the summarizing through
excerpts from “Talks and Dialogues” JD Krishnamurti.
We are always in conflict. With our most intimate ones, with our neighbours,
with the society. There seems to be a deep rooted conflict within us, which
expresses in the form of antagonism, hate, desire to dominate, possess, guide
another’s life. We have found ways to trim off some branches of this conflict,
but is it possible that there is no conflict within us, so that there is no
conflict outside too?
There are several organizations which try to bring peace to mankind.
Communists, materialists, socialists, religion, etc. They believe that bringing
about order outside, through rules, regulations, sanctions etc, there can be
freedom from aggression and hence from conflict. But does it work?
There are also people who say that bringing order inside – though believing
in some idealogy or principle and living according to those inward established
laws will lead to removal of conflict.
But can conflict be resolved through conformity? Whether we do it
willingly or forced. We seemed to have tried everything – obedience, revolt,
conformity and everything in order to live in peace. But it doesn’t seem to
work. Would it not be worthwhile to find out if man can live in peace inwardly,
without any form of compulsion, suppression etc. A state of tranquillity which
knows no disturbance at any moment. Is this possible?
On a different note :- We all think that inward order
can only come about through time, that tranquillity can be built little by
little everyday. But time does not bring about inward peace. We have had centuries
on this earth but still the peaceful mind is elusive. It is very important to
put a stop to time, so as not to think in terms of gradualness. It means there
is no tomorrow for you to be peaceful. You have to do it right now, this
moment, no other moment.
Why do we have this inner conflict? Why do we have to live with it
everyday? It leads to the nature of desire.
Desire is a contradiction – It basically means we want something which we do
not have. If we observe desire without condemning or justifying it, we can see
that desire is the cause of all contradiction in us – we want pleasure and we
want to avoid pain.
We want this, must avoid that, want pleasure, achievements, pleasure of
dominating etc. When we do not get these, there is the pain of not achieving –
which is a contradiction. This contradiction cannot end if we do not understand
desire. There are many who are interested in understanding desire. Mostly
religious people. They have understood that desire is the root of issues, so
they say desire must be suppressed, destroyed, controlled. Did it work?
Suppression, distortion and conformity did not lead to the truth.
Why shouldn’t there be desire? What is wrong with it? We see a beautiful
cloud, a beautiful house or face and we have an immense pleasure looking at it.
What is wrong with it? The process of desire is simple. It starts with seeing,
contact, then there is sensation and then thought interferes with it, and
desire arises. We see a beautiful light on the cloud, and it would be absurd
not to enjoy it. But thought dwells upon it and makes it into a pleasurable
memory, and it wants that pleasure to be repeated.
Thought interferes with sensation and makes it into memory, and the
desire for the pleasure of that memory is given continuity and sustained by
thought, nourished by thought.
So lets look at it this way. I am dull and stupid. The response to that
would be that I want to be more clever, intelligent and brighter. I am
something and I want the opposite – hence there is a contradiction already – a conflict
which wastes energy. But could I live with that stupidity, that dullness,
without wanting the opposite, without the contradiction? Then it would not be
dull at all. It doesn’t mean that I am satisfied with myself. Can I just look
at my dullness without introducing any factor? Can I look at the beautiful
house, pretty bird or tree without any contradiction? Desire, which is created
by thought, is all about bringing this division, this contradiction.
So to have inward peace and a mind not at conflict at any time, we have
to understand the whole nature of thought and desire, and that understanding
can only come when thought doesn’t breed further conflict.
On a different note :- We never ask ourselves why we dream. So our mind is never at rest,
whether awake or asleep. If we are able to rest our minds, without any dreams
or conflicts or problems, then the mind can renew itself, become fresh, young
and innocent. Anyways, why do we dream? It is because during the day our mind
is occupied with so many things – work, children, entertainment, duties, trees,
rivers etc. There is no hint of the unconscious. When the surface mind is very
occupied, the unconscious underneath has no relationship with it. So when you sleep and the surface mind is
somewhat quite, thats when the deeper layers intimate their own demands, their
own conflicts and agonies. But it is a waste of energy – this whole process. IF
we are AWAKE during the day, watching every thought, every feeling, every
movement of the mind, our emotions, our insecurities, watching our reactions
when flattered or insulted or neglected, watching the trees, water and
everything around, outside and inside, then the whole of the consciousness –
inner and outer is opened up. IF we do this, watch our mind in operation, our
feelings, our heart, our reactions, if we see ourselves and our relationships
with outside world and inward too, then the mind becomes extraordinary – always
renewing itself, because there is no conflict at it, it is always fresh. Such a
mind is by nature, very quite, tranquil, silent. It is only such a life that
can see the beauty of life and is beyond time.
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